tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post3842446453896524341..comments2023-10-24T01:17:35.297-07:00Comments on Etaoin Shrdlu: Suicide girl: I didn't want to dieHowardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08379598516764590842noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-17549006539319065462008-08-31T12:18:00.000-07:002008-08-31T12:18:00.000-07:00My point, obviously, was the think-outside-the-box...My point, obviously, was the think-outside-the-box mentality that leads to a craigslist. <BR/><BR/>That's what many major corporations lack. Including MNI. We do things the way we've always done them, because that's all we know. And believe me, at my MNI paper, for all the call now to the urgency of the mission, I've watched true visionary editors get slapped down again and again in recent years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-2148272543880228902008-08-30T06:15:00.000-07:002008-08-30T06:15:00.000-07:00That's like insightful. Do you know what would/wil...That's like insightful. Do you know what would/will save us? Or do you just know what wouldn't have save(d) us? Imitating TV?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-44015423877698900162008-08-28T20:36:00.000-07:002008-08-28T20:36:00.000-07:00Just for the record, if we had "invented" Craigsli...Just for the record, if we had "invented" Craigslist, it wouldn't have done us a damned bit of good.<BR/><BR/>The central fact about Craigslist is that it is free, or mostly so. It makes like $20 million nationally. A free classified service wouldn't have save us.Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08379598516764590842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-16691688097720525992008-08-28T17:12:00.000-07:002008-08-28T17:12:00.000-07:00Well, I'm sure you're absolutely right, Anon9:44. ...Well, I'm sure you're absolutely right, Anon9:44. No way should we concentrate on quality journalism that serves our communities.<BR/><BR/>Newsflash: What got us where we are is the fact that upper level managers failed to invent craigslist before Craig did; refused to recognize that professional, well executed journalism that speaks truth to power can be conveyed just as well, if not better, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-83207003378081703412008-08-28T09:44:00.000-07:002008-08-28T09:44:00.000-07:00What we do well has gotten us where we are. We nee...What we do well has gotten us where we are. We need to do different things not just the same thing differently. "Bells and Whistles" is, frankly, offensive. This video is bad. There is no doubt about that. But concentrating on what we do best, or at least what we think we do best, will make us obsolete faster than doing nothing at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-26072443985023677402008-08-28T07:13:00.000-07:002008-08-28T07:13:00.000-07:00Sooner or later, we're going to have to decide whe...Sooner or later, we're going to have to decide whether we value the reporting or the bells and whistles. I don't really know that badly shot, badly edited, boring video amounts to bells and whistles, but apparently Howard thinks it does.<BR/><BR/>We're not TV. They're really good at video, because that's what they do. They're not so great at reporting, or context, or depth. They don't have Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-14440840506513855932008-08-28T06:56:00.000-07:002008-08-28T06:56:00.000-07:00What is missing from this list? The E&P list o...What is missing from this list? The E&P list of papers that do it right?<BR/><BR/>The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel for maintaining a 10-person investigative team.<BR/><BR/>The Carlsbad (N.M.) Current-Argus for overhauling its distribution and bill-collection practices.<BR/><BR/>The Richmond (Va.) Times-Dispatch for localizing national and international issues successfully via reader forums.<BR/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-3601935529305814222008-08-28T06:52:00.000-07:002008-08-28T06:52:00.000-07:00I hesitate to comment because you have such a thin...I hesitate to comment because you have such a thin skin. Frankly, all the video shows is what's wrong with upper management's approach to news. TV is successful so let's be TV. Yahoo is successful so let's be Yahoo. On. And on. And on. How about a fresh idea? I can read the Times, Mr. Weaver, thank you very much. Tell me, show me, something I didn't know.<BR/> The video, apparently more than 10 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-67844654011682612402008-08-27T12:13:00.000-07:002008-08-27T12:13:00.000-07:00Excellent reporting. I just wish the video had bee...Excellent reporting. I just wish the video had been edited as tightly as the story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com