tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post7684940318495544158..comments2023-10-24T01:17:35.297-07:00Comments on Etaoin Shrdlu: Nostalgia is not your friendHowardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08379598516764590842noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-43544002657325140472008-06-20T22:20:00.000-07:002008-06-20T22:20:00.000-07:00Or we have our editor, our publisher and yes, even...Or we have our editor, our publisher and yes, even you Howard, talking to us in the newsroom about "the future" and yet the very web programmers who we need to help build that future are given their walking papers this week.<BR/><BR/>Lots of corporate speak, but little real world logic, at least to these lowly copy editing eyes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-22265222270477161262008-06-20T17:10:00.000-07:002008-06-20T17:10:00.000-07:00Hey Howard, your buddy Anonymous here -- well one ...Hey Howard, your buddy Anonymous here -- well one of them.<BR/><BR/>I would echo the strange decisions made to cut the "content producers" instead of the higher-paid managers. Makes little sense.<BR/><BR/>Of course now some of us are doing what the clerks used to do, at a much higher price. I don't feel bad about it, I have mouths to fee.<BR/><BR/>I'm not a particularly nostalgic person, and I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-70260255978977497382008-06-20T11:32:00.000-07:002008-06-20T11:32:00.000-07:00I don't know what layoff lists you are reading, Ho...I don't know what layoff lists you are reading, Howard. I am not the previous poster. Yet, I have the same experience at my newsroom. Upper managers' jobs were saved. Department heads were spared. Line editors, who actually put out the paper, are the ones on the block. Total BS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-14475564571017952362008-06-20T08:49:00.000-07:002008-06-20T08:49:00.000-07:00Honestly, I have no idea what you're describing he...Honestly, I have no idea what you're describing here.<BR/><BR/>I read the layoff lists from all the newsrooms and didn't see anything that sounds like what you are describing here.<BR/><BR/>Please get yourself a fake hotmail account or something and email me directly with details. I will look for your email.Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08379598516764590842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-14088848847026399722008-06-20T07:39:00.000-07:002008-06-20T07:39:00.000-07:00Re: eliminate layers of editors and operate with l...Re: eliminate layers of editors and operate with less hierarchy.<BR/><BR/>We've done exactly the opposite at my McClatchy paper. Every single person we've lost or will soon lose in our newsroom was a clerk, reporter, copy editor, designer, artist, photographer or a manager on the lowest rung of management who still put content in the paper and the Web every day. <BR/><BR/>And yet in these 40 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-38059963431627466022008-06-19T23:37:00.000-07:002008-06-19T23:37:00.000-07:00Howard –Again, thanks for the conversation. I appr...Howard –<BR/><BR/>Again, thanks for the conversation. I appreciate your candor and bluntness. Here is more from me.<BR/><BR/>Believe it or not, I am not nostalgic. I left the paper 10 years ago, and there really is life after The Bee. I’ve been cleaning out the garage lately and coming across a lot of old Bees that are headed, finally, to the recycling bin. Some of them were pretty good, others Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-67024871373152489202008-06-19T19:38:00.000-07:002008-06-19T19:38:00.000-07:00You say don't panic, but people are panicking at t...You say don't panic, but people are panicking at the McClatchy paper I work at, and the flop sweat is coming directly from the department heads and raining down upon the staff like a smelly spring shower. Monday was several years overdue here and they feel another Monday is just around the corner.<BR/><BR/>Keep talking though, Howard - we're listening to you - but management here is suddenly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com