tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post363814660970306113..comments2023-10-24T01:17:35.297-07:00Comments on Etaoin Shrdlu: Why is a Facebook beer worth more than your news story?Howardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08379598516764590842noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-89221359025422739682010-02-27T00:27:31.958-08:002010-02-27T00:27:31.958-08:00"Live Interactive Journalism" that is wh..."Live Interactive Journalism" that is what I think the new business model for newspapers should be. Take the reporters out of the building with equip them with laptops, video cameras and a live streaming feed and put them out there. I think the community would be willing to pay for live coverage. It doesn't necessarily have to be anything groundbreaking or exciting but interesting. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12646429285277217393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-31801508393668313342010-02-13T10:06:01.979-08:002010-02-13T10:06:01.979-08:00We're absolutely on the same track here, Joey....We're absolutely on the same track here, Joey. I agree the responsibility for creating a community environment rests with the industry. When people won't use our products, that has to be our problem, not theirs.<br /><br />Livingstories is a step in the right direction, tho implementation thus far is lacking. I like to talk about "news services" now rather than "news<br />Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08379598516764590842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-25149631878412689412010-02-13T09:40:25.557-08:002010-02-13T09:40:25.557-08:00@Howard–
Thanks for the clarification – I'm h...@Howard–<br /><br />Thanks for the clarification – I'm happy to leave it as an open question as well, as nobody that I know of has tried to treat news as a virtual good.<br /><br />However, I think your second to last graf incorrectly phrases the problem:<br /><br />→ "An individual news story is itself a virtual good. What’s missing is the community environment in which it is recognizedJoey Bakerhttp://byjoeybaker.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-81719797095888012922010-02-12T09:49:03.588-08:002010-02-12T09:49:03.588-08:00To anon 11:50
BS.
As a news reporter, I of course...To anon 11:50<br />BS.<br /> As a news reporter, I of course owe a certain allegiance to my supervisors and the organization that employs me (which as far as I know doesn't have jack to do with Halliburton et al). But my primary duty (and indeed, that of my supervisors) is to cover news and inform the reading public of things they need to know. I have, in my career, quit jobs where I felt Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-6178281743963039502010-02-11T23:50:18.232-08:002010-02-11T23:50:18.232-08:00The answer is simple. The people who read news rea...The answer is simple. The people who read news realize that the people writing it are loyal only to their editors who are loyal to their publishers who are loyal to Halliburton et al. This is because of people like Jay Rosen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-14769215958373666042010-02-11T19:38:26.550-08:002010-02-11T19:38:26.550-08:00Joey -- My post is more in the nature of a questio...Joey -- My post is more in the nature of a question than an answer; it doesn't pretend to be prescriptive to any level of detail.<br /><br />It certainly does not anticipate micropayments for discrete individual stories or sharing. It envisions a system under that serves the community of people who most appreciate/want/need news and commentary in ways that make it valuable to them -- not as aHowardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08379598516764590842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-20829552634177313662010-02-11T19:05:37.210-08:002010-02-11T19:05:37.210-08:00In Sway: The Irresistible Pull of Irrational Behav...In Sway: The Irresistible Pull of Irrational Behavior, the authors make an argument that there are two brain centers that motivate most behavior. The first is linked to materialism and pleasure, and the second is linked to altruism. I suspect that the motivation for giving someone a virtual beer is associated with the former, and civic behavior is associated with the latter. Moreover, people Steve Farrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17284060036200897268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-2905755802456869542010-02-11T17:30:19.091-08:002010-02-11T17:30:19.091-08:00I'm a bit confused on what your final suggesti...I'm a bit confused on what your final suggestion entails. As I read your post, it's either:<br />• Charge users micropayments for the option to share news with friends.<br />OR<br />• News is a virtual good and therefore has some value, the trick is to figure out how to extract that.<br /><br />If you could perhaps clarify for me?Joey Bakerhttp://byjoeybaker.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-65077670968050858812010-02-11T16:52:49.254-08:002010-02-11T16:52:49.254-08:00Mary -- charging for activities like commenting or...Mary -- charging for activities like commenting or conversation would be problematic for a few reasons, including the fact that part of being a news community means having everybody in on the conversation. But there might be non-core activities that fit the virtual goods model, or perhaps we could think of a subscription as being payment for the virtual good of "news" -- which is, afterHowardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08379598516764590842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-27117893377471019482010-02-11T15:11:46.751-08:002010-02-11T15:11:46.751-08:00I understand that we need this to happen, but I ha...I understand that we need this to happen, but I have a hard time believing that people who share and care about news would adopt a behavior similar to spending real money on virtual beer. Would they pay to join a conversation about a particular story just to be part of the social group that was discussing that story? I think that the people who would care enough to pay to read a story would do soMary919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-57474523967162312252010-02-11T14:57:09.953-08:002010-02-11T14:57:09.953-08:00I'd rather pay $1 for a virtual beer than drin...I'd rather pay $1 for a virtual beer than drink Budweiser for free. But this is completely beside the point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com