tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post1484186341083701377..comments2023-10-24T01:17:35.297-07:00Comments on Etaoin Shrdlu: There's design and then there's web designHowardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08379598516764590842noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-38508206610722341642008-07-02T17:06:00.000-07:002008-07-02T17:06:00.000-07:00Creative Circle Media Consulting, which has redesi...Creative Circle Media Consulting, which has redesigned a half dozen of our newspapers, is doing some very cutting edge web design. So I don't think it's your background that matters, just the quality of your thinking. I wish we could use them for web design (or their software) on our site. But everything comes from corporate. Our sites are dull and lack features that lots of other papers are Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-74017339676967623072007-11-23T12:50:00.000-08:002007-11-23T12:50:00.000-08:00You cannot win if you meander onto the field with ...You cannot win if you meander onto the field with a team that doesn't know how to play.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-92168480465100359002007-11-23T11:43:00.000-08:002007-11-23T11:43:00.000-08:00I can think of one way to find out.And meanwhile, ...I can think of one way to find out.<BR/><BR/>And meanwhile, hedge your bets with some good outside hires. Interactive seems to be doing that in some places.<BR/><BR/>You cannot win if you do not play.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-75007552561413347052007-11-23T10:28:00.000-08:002007-11-23T10:28:00.000-08:00Anonymous,Well of course second string is better t...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>Well of course second string is better than no string. But what string is Google? What string is Craig's List? What string are all these competitors where there once were none?<BR/><BR/>My concern is not that the "second string" isn't good (or capable of good). My concern is whether this "second string" will be <I>good enough</I>.-30-https://www.blogger.com/profile/06077091185218143621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-83685761131554038802007-11-23T08:56:00.000-08:002007-11-23T08:56:00.000-08:00I've been a victim of web-design vs. offline-desig...I've been a victim of web-design vs. offline-design. I have many friends who are real 'artists' when we talk about CGI, canvas, and other types of graphics. But when I test them and ask them to make a simple design for a landing page, they gave me nothing to work from.<BR/>I then had to suggest them some sites (like http://www.ecommercepartners.net) so they could know what website design means.William Antoniohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12655193002874664881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-15101671048013703922007-11-23T08:54:00.000-08:002007-11-23T08:54:00.000-08:00I'll take the bait.Is there somewhere that "legacy...I'll take the bait.<BR/><BR/>Is there somewhere that "legacy" designers are getting to redesign newspaper websites? Where?<BR/><BR/>My experience points to no designers participating in newspaper websites. The walls are up, and the results are obvious. <BR/><BR/>Too many pages are being "designed" by marketers or by word editors given new tools to post content without regard to design or Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-27444006457770392932007-11-21T15:11:00.000-08:002007-11-21T15:11:00.000-08:00I continue to be a somewhat uncomfortable with "tr...I continue to be a somewhat uncomfortable with "traditional" (legacy?) designers redesigning newspaper web sites.<BR/><BR/>It's not that these folks aren't talented, oh no, and it's not that they automatically can't to web design because they came from a career in print.<BR/><BR/>It's that they're the "second string" and we need (and I think deserve) better. Howard, you said it yourself, we "<I>-30-https://www.blogger.com/profile/06077091185218143621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-40621585637263887342007-11-20T16:27:00.000-08:002007-11-20T16:27:00.000-08:00I wasn't cleare, I guess: I think Google's an almo...I wasn't cleare, I guess: I think Google's an almost Zen-like perfection when it comes to design, form and function.<BR/><BR/>Obviously, an identical approach won't work for us as we attempt to display wide variety and constant updating, but I think it represents an ideal worth reach for.Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08379598516764590842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3039863.post-26175590988996134952007-11-20T16:07:00.000-08:002007-11-20T16:07:00.000-08:00I'm sorry if I miss interpreted your comment, but ...I'm sorry if I miss interpreted your comment, but Google as an example of function with no form? I don't think I agree. It may be a simple form, but that does not mean bad. Pleasing and to the point is often the best way for a web design.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com